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10 Responses to “Salafiyyah - The Conversation Continues”

1. Tariq Nelson Says:
   April 9th, 2006 at 4:20 pm

   as-salaam alaykum,

   Yes, the points you made were right on point. That movement has nothing to offer to families and communities to live and survive in this country

   May Allah reward you

2. Tariq Nelson Says:
   April 9th, 2006 at 4:22 pm

   by the way, they don’t call it “Salafi Burnout” for nothing

3. rashid Says:
   April 9th, 2006 at 6:43 pm

   Salaams,
   Agreed. This movement, like all Islamic movements/groups that are to one extreme or the other offer very, very little concrete solutions for the world we live in.
   To build on Tariq’s reference of “Salafi Burnout”, it is often seen that even those who are involved in such a movement cannot sustain it’s hardline teachings for very long.
   Unfortuately, many must come to this conclusion on their own. No amount of explaining, dialogue, etc. will convince them that their “Minhaj” is incorrect and actually harmful to themselves/families/community. Of course, we must still continue such a dialogue, as you are doing, Ashraf, in the hopes that it does make an impact and cause people think and re-think their position.
   In addition, we must find ways to continue to support scholars who are also doing their best to inform all of us of the tremendous possiblities that Islam contains and move away from the narrow views of extreme movements/groups like the Salafis.

4. Marc Says:
   April 10th, 2006 at 12:31 pm

   See comment here for more info

5. Anonymous Says:
   April 10th, 2006 at 4:02 pm

   Assalaamu ‘Alaykum Brother Marqas,

   If I would have read your blog when you initially posted it, I wouldn’t have understood what you were talking about and actually would have thought that you were exxagerating things a bit. In the past year I have come across the type of Muslims you described and unfortunately you were correct in your assessment.

   I just wanted to piggy back off of what brother Tariq stated about the moving not having anything to offer families and communities. I know brothers who are jobless, on welfare and have their women out on the streets begging for money but they think it’s okay because they’re sitting up in the masjid all day long. How is this a practice of the salafs? How will our youth grow into strong young women and men if they use these brothers as an example.

   How are we supposed to survive as a community and grow as a strong ummah if we are lacking in education. How are we supposed to compete with or refute the unbelievers if we don’t possess the necessary reading, writing and speakings skills that are obtained through education. Some of the greatest inventions of all times were from who? The Muslims! Do you think that sitting up in the Masjid all day mooching off of the government will provide you with these skills? With the way that things are going we are headed for a vicious cycle of uneducated and misguided Muslims. May Allah (swt) help us.

6. Marc Says:
   April 11th, 2006 at 6:18 pm

   Thanks to all of you who’ve posted. I hope to hear from the rest of you out there! Salaams.

7. Ginny Says:
   April 12th, 2006 at 9:29 pm

   Assalamu alaikum, you know, I thought about dropping you an email on this subject, so as to get my comments out there, without opening myself up to “takfir-ing” etcetera, but thought better of it. I’m sure if you’d have gotten an email from this emotional windbag, you’d have wondered who this crazy person was email you lol.

8. Marqas Says:
   April 13th, 2006 at 9:12 am

   Well, I don’t care for making takfir (proclaimng people to be disbelievers) - I find it usually doesn’t serve much purpose and energies can be put to better use. As for the windbag issue, I am more sympathetic as I tend to be one myself! Salaams.

9. The Manrilla Blog | Life. Art. Religion. Culture. | Documenting the American Muslim Experience one pixel at a time » Salafiyyah - The Conversation Really Continues Says:
   April 25th, 2007 at 8:57 pm

   […] I’m gonna post my comments from this conversation below to push it to the fore front of the blog a little. Please read the 2nd post and the original one as well. And of course, we’d love to hear your take on it. I’ve had really good responses and I thank all of you. My purpose for this is precisely that - a dialog. So I hope to hear from more of you. […]

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    June 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pm

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